I have oily, acne-prone skin that’s also sensitive and I’ve struggled a lot in the past to find the products that wouldn’t clog my pores, turn my face into a greasier mess or trigger a reaction. Now that I have most of it decoded, I thought I should help others save some time and finally get healthy skin.
And as much as I love doing my multiple-step skincare routine when I’m stressed, a minimal 3-5 step skincare routine is what I go for on a daily basis when it comes to taking care of my oily, acne-prone skin.
Importance of Having a Skincare Routine
People with acne-prone skin struggle a lot and are mostly looking for one miracle product that takes care of everything. But that never works.
It’s extremely important to follow a basic skincare routine to make your skin barrier healthy and to protect your skin from external acne-triggers. My trick is to stick to the basics and give your skin exactly what it needs.
Why I love The Ordinary?
- Affordable yet effective.
- Fragrance & Essential Oil-Free.
- Cruelty-free and Vegan-friendly.
- You can try each ingredient to understand what works for your skin before moving on to products that have a mixture of multiple actives.
The Ordinary offers a lot of skincare products, more than I can keep a count of! That’s what makes it confusing for beginners who think they need it all.
In this post, I’ll simplify the products and suggest a simple yet effective skincare routine for oily, acne-prone skin.
You can always combine products from different brands, in fact, that’s what I always do but when you’re just starting out with skincare, you possibly don’t have a clue on how to mix different things or even the will to go through multiple brands and see what they offer.
There’s a million skincare brands and products available around you which makes buying skincare an overwhelming experience. This brand is affordable, easily available and avoids some common irritating ingredients, so I feel a skincare routine using The Ordinary should be perfect for someone who’s just starting out.
Common concerns this routine can help with:
- Dull skin
- Whiteheads
- Blackheads
- Dehydrated skin
- Uneven skin tone
If you have any or all of these concerns along with oily-acne prone skin, you will still benefit from following this routine. This would even work for people with normal to combination skin.
All the products used in this routine by The Ordinary are Vegan.
Morning Skincare Routine with The Ordinary
Disclosure: Contains affiliate links. I receive a small commission for purchases made via them.
Step 1: Cleanse
The Ordinary doesn’t have a gel or foaming cleanser at the moment so wash your face with a gentle pH-balanced gel or foaming cleanser of your choice to get rid of oils. Take a shot if you also wake up with a sticky, greasy face!
Here are some of my favourite cleansers (with review) that you can try:
- SKIN1004 Centella Ampoule Foam
- Pixi Glow Tonic Cleansing Gel
- Drunk Elephant Beste No.9 Jelly Cleanser
- Sebamed Clear Face Cleansing Foam
Step 2: Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% Solution
Price: $7 for 30ml
pH 5.50-6.50
After you cleanse your face, wipe off the water and apply 2 drops of this serum on the face. Applying it on wet skin and/or using more quantity makes it foam a little so please keep that in mind.
This is one of my favourite products from The Ordinary. Niacinamide is a great ingredient for dull/uneven skin and it also helps to strengthen your skin’s barrier, thereby reducing the effects of environmental damage.
Definitely a good anti-oxidant to include in your routine. I have personally noticed that my pores appeared to be smaller with regular usage of this product.
With 1% Zinc, this serum also mattifies the skin which is a dream come true for all oily skin types.
Step 3: Sunscreen
Now you can go ahead and use The Ordinary’s Mineral UV Filters SPF 30 with Antioxidants. It costs $12 for 50ml with a pH between 7.5-8.0. But it does have a white cast.
My favourite oily-skin friendly sunscreen with an affordable price tag and no white cast is Nivea Super Water Gel SPF 50 – very lightweight texture and no heaviness.
A broad-spectrum sunscreen is a must-have in every skincare routine. Not only will it protect you from ageing and skin cancer, using enough sunscreen will help minimise the post acne scars and also prevent dull skin.
Nighttime Skincare Routine with The Ordinary
Step 1: Squalane Cleanser
Price: $10 for 50ml
pH 5.5-6.5
If you wear makeup, using a wet wipe is the worst thing you can do to your skin. And with acne-prone skin, it’s like an invitation to all the future acne to come attack you at once. I am an advocate of double cleansing because my oily, acne-prone has seen tremendous results with it.
Start off with The Ordinary Squalane Cleanser that gently takes off all the makeup and impurities. Firstly, you have to warm it up for 20-30 seconds between your palms so it breaks down into an oily texture. Then massage it on the face and skin to make sure you get it all off or at least most of it.
Step 2: Second Cleanse
Use the same gel/foam cleanser that you used in the morning for a final cleanse. This would ensure that the residue makeup or dirt is completely off the skin.
Not cleansing your skin properly results in skin congestion as a result of which you notice acne/ whiteheads/ blackheads. So make sure you always take it all off!
Step 3: Exfoliate
The Ordinary has multiple exfoliating acids that’d work for oily, acne-prone skin so I’ll list down a few and mention who should use what along with the frequency.
Salicylic Acid 2% Solution
Price: $7 for 30ml
pH 3.2-4.0
Another holygrail of mine from the brand is their salicylic acid solution. If you have congestion and blackheads, this product would penetrate deep into the skin and unclog the pores. It also helps with oil-control!
In my opinion, every oily skin person should have at least one product that has salicylic acid. You should use it on alternate nights, no more than 3 times a week to avoid overexfoliation.
Two drops are enough and make sure you apply this after your skin has completely dried up after cleansing.
I also use this as a spot treatment and it WORKS! You can read my review on The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution where I talk about this product in detail.
Lactic Acid
Price: $8 for 30ml
pH 3.6-3.8
Lactic acid is an AHA that gently exfoliates the skin and gives a smoother and clearer complexion. If dullness and whiteheads are your biggest concern then choose this.
If you’re a beginner with sensitive skin, start with their 5% variant but if you don’t have sensitive skin go for 10%.
How to choose between Lactic Acid and Salicylic Acid?
Many of you might be facing all the issues combined like blackheads, whiteheads, dullness, acne and are confused between lactic acid and salicylic acid. My suggestion would be to use both.
- Sunday & Friday (2x a week) – Lactic Acid
- Tuesday – Salicylic Acid
(Or vice-versa)
See which acid covers the majority of your concerns and use that twice. The overall exfoliation count shouldn’t cross 3x a week to be on a safer side.
If you’re someone who has already used exfoliating acids in the past then go for their Glycolic Acid Toner and use that in place of lactic acid.
You can read my review of The Ordinary Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution to know more about this product.
Step 4: Marine Hyaluronics
Price: $8 for 30ml
pH 4.0-5.0
On days you don’t exfoliate, use the Marine Hyaluronics directly after cleansing. Otherwise, apply it after you’ve applied your exfoliating acid.
Marine Hyaluronics is a lightweight hydrating serum that has skin-friendly marine bacteria, algae and amino acids that would hydrate and strengthen your skin. What’s great about this product is that it doesn’t feel viscous or tacky unlike their hyaluronic acid serum and is perfect for oily skin.
I prefer to keep my routine as minimal as it can be especially in the morning but if you want you can use it serum in the morning skincare routine too to get extra hydration.
Step 5: Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
Price: $7 for 30ml
pH 6.5-7.0
The last step of your skincare would be to finish it off with lightweight water-based moisturiser that will moisturise your skin without feeling greasy or clogging your pores.
Our skin already has Natural Moisturizing Factors (NMF) that keep the outer layer of the skin protected and well-hydrated. This moisturiser by The Ordinary gives your skin additional NMF and has multiple amino acids, glycerin, ceramide precursors, urea, hyaluronic acid, etc to make sure your skin is well-moisturised and healthy.
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Quick Recap for The Ordinary Skincare Routine
Morning Routine:
1. Cleanse with any gel/foaming cleanser
2. Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%
3. Sunscreen (The Ordinary Mineral UV Filters SPF 30 or Purito Unscented Centella SPF 50)
Nighttime Routine:
1. Squalane Cleanser
2. Second Cleanse with gel/foaming cleanser
3. Salicylic Acid / Lactic Acid/ Glycolic Acid (3x a week)
4. Marine Hyaluronics
5. Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
I hope you found this post useful! Please take exfoliation slowly and introduce one active at a time. This would help you find the culprit in case you face an allergic reaction. If you are suffering from painful cystic acne then My Retinoid Skincare Routine might be of some help!
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Leah says
Hi, I’m a teenager with facial acne and if I’m only able to purchase a few of these products which would you recommend the most?
Leah says
If I can only purchase a few of these products which ones would you recommend the most for teenage facial acne
Rifat Yaseen says
Sorry for being extremely late! If you have acne it is best to consult a dermatologist for the right treatment. As for basics, you should give Cerave SA cleanser a try. And a moisturiser from the ordinary.
Shayakh Imam says
Hi, I’m currently using this following skin care routine. Please guide me if I’m doing something wrong. I have an oily T region skin with some acne and uneven skin as well as uneven skin tone due to tanning.
My am routine :
Step 1 : I use a 2% salicylic acid based foaming cleanser from minimalist.
Step 2 : I use a 3% polyhydroxy acid toner from minimalist.
Step 3 : I use 10% niacinamide 1 % serum from the ordinary and vitaminc C serum.
Step 4 : I use a light moisturiser
Step 5 : finally I apply some spf 50 sunscreen by minimalist.
My pm routine :
Step 1 : I use a 2% salicylic acid based foaming cleanser from minimalist.
Step 2 : I use a 3% polyhydroxy acid toner from minimalist.
Step 3 : I use 10% niacinamide 1 % serum from the ordinary
Step 4 : I use a light moisturiser.
I’ve been following this skin care routine for the last 5-6 months and haven’t seen any noticeable results. Please tell me if I’m doing something wrong and suggest me some products if so. Thank you <3
Rifat Yaseen says
Hello, it really depends on what results you were aiming to achieve from this. Do you have negligible skin issues or concerns that might need a visit to a dermat? Your routine is fine. Personally, I would skip the PHA toner in morning because it’s an exfoliator and you don’t wanna overexfoliate the skin, just at night is fine.
Ledia | K-beauty Notes says
Thank you for sharing! So helpful! I swear by the TO niacinamide 10% + zinc 1% for my acne prone skin! It works wonders to prevent further acne, heal the existing ones, and reduce inflammation.
Isra says
Hey i just turned 20 and im having mild acne on my face i’ve started a skincare routine
AM:
Cerave acne foaming cream cleanser
The ordinary niacinamide 10% + zinc 1%
Cerave Am moisturiser with spf 30
PM:
Cerave acne foaming cream cleanser (i dont double cleanse bcz i dont use makeup)
The ordinary lactic acid 5% friday and sunday
The ordinary salicylic acid 2% masque tuesday (i couldnt find the serum)
The ordinary natural moisturising factors+HA
i want to add marine hyaluronics and retinol serum , can you please guide me how to add them in the routine and could you please tell me specific days as well. Thankyou❤️
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, you have a solid routine going on! You can use retinol serum on days you’re not using lactic or salicylic acid masque (Mon, Wed, Sat?) And for marine hyaluronics, this can be used daily in both morning or night or either, apply it right after cleansing and then move to other steps.
Hannah says
Hi, great article. Im planning to add retinoic acid.
Where can I add it in this routine?
AM
1) Emokleen Gentle Cleanser
2) NIACINAMIDE 10% + ZINC 1% SOLUTION
3) Biore Sunscreen or Snailwhite Sunscreen
PM
1) SQUALANE CLEANSER
2) Emokleen Gentle Cleanser
3) Glycolic Acid Toner (Every Friday and Sunday) Salycylic Acid (Every Tuesday)
4) MARINE HYALURONICS
5) NATURAL MOISTURIZING FACTORS + HA
Hope you could reply. Appreciate it much! I have tried retinoic before but it was 3 years ago already and would say it helped my skin. I am 24 years old btw. Oily and acne prone skin. Thanks again so much! You’re article is a saviour ♥️
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, you should add it in your PM routine. So for starting you could do 2x per week before moisturizer if it’s a gentle retinol but if it is a strong formula then after moisturizer to avoid irritation. Hope this helps, have a great day !
Hannah says
Hi, thanks so much for your reply. Should it be on days I use the exfoliating acids?
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, no you should only use it on nights when you are NOT using any kind of exfoliating products.
Funmishola says
I saw the reviews of the ordinary online so I decided to give it a trial.
I have an oily, dehydrated, so much dark spots, acne on my face how I wish you can see my picture, although I’m African fair skinned.
How do combine AHA 30% + BHA 2% peeling solution, Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 10%, EUK 134*0.1%, Hyluronic acid + BY, Retinol and Glycolic acid. I need a Am and Pm routine please.
Kindly advice me on what to do. Thank you!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hello, the AHA BHA peel is very strong and I would only recommend it to only people who have been using chemical exfoliation for years. For retinol you can use it 2x a week at PM but don’t use glycolic acid on those nights. And glycolic acid 2x a week max. The rest of the products you can make a routine of by referencing the article. Don’t forget to use sunscreen !
Beauty Undefiled says
Thank you so much for this information!
I have oily acne-prone dark skin and this is my current routine.
AM:
Soap and Glory Vitamin C wash
Heritage Rosewater Spray
Good Molecules Discoloration Correcting Serum
La Roche Posay Anthelios Clear Skin Sunscreen SPF60
PM:
Garnier Rosewater and Glycerin Miscellar Water
Soap and Glory Vitamin C wash
The Ordinary lactic acid (Wed)
The Ordinary Glycolic Acid (Mon/Fri)
Tiam Vita B3 Source (10% niacinamide and 2% alpha arbutin)- on days when not using the exfoliating acids
Cerave PM Moisturiser
I hope this routine is good enough? Also, should I change the Vitamin C wash since its an active ingredient/potent, especially in the evening when I use the AHAs or Niacinamide serum? If yes, is a salicylic acid cleanser a good replacement since I occasionally have hormonal acne pimples? Super thanks!
Rifat Yaseen says
The routine looks great to me ! You don’t HAVE to change the vitamin c facewash as it is in a wash off formula and is in contact with your skin for just some seconds. If you want some change you can try a salicylic acid cleanser but it is not necessary.
Rai says
Hi,
I definitely have the same issues: oily, acne-prone, scarred skin with whiteheads. For some reason, I’m starting to have acne under my chin to my neck.
For four weeks, I’ve been trying out this routine. I’ve only started seeing results after switching from cerave foaming cleanser to aveeno positively radiant face wash in the morning followed by the above morning routine. I am having trouble finding a good sunscreen. Would you say the neutrogena sunscreen line is good? Or what would you suggest for tropical climates?
As for the night routine, I followed your nighttime routine, and use aveeno’s salicylic acid face wash. I have the lactic acid 10% (S) and salicylic anhydrous acid (W, F). I have acne scars and flare ups whenever the time of the month starts.
I’d like to include azelaic acid orrr would you advise against it?
I’m sorry, I feel like I’m asking too many questions 😅
Rifat Yaseen says
Hello, the Neutrogena sunscreen was a bit too oily for me in tropical climate (I am originally from India haha). Have you looked into Biore sunscreens or Isntree hyaluronic watery gel one? Those are much more light weight. You can use azelaic acid on nights you are not using exfoliating acids, its an amazing ingredient. Apologies for late response! Feel free to ask more questions, I really appreciate you taking the time to read my article 🙂
Rai says
Awesome! Thank you so much for your response. No worries, I still appreciate that you responded back.
So I made changes to my routine and used CeraVe’s acne foaming cleanser for AM and PM because the results were promising. I also discontinued with the salicylic anhydrous acid because it left my face really oily the next morning. I now added CeraVe’s retinol resurfacing serum to my routine, on days I’m not exfoliating. I wanted to ask since I have dark acne spots, if I should incorporate a vitamin c serum or just give it time and let the products do what they do best?
I will definitely incorporate the
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, it’s the best to give the products some time to do their thing for now 🙂 To be very honest with you, Vitamin C has rarely done anything major for my acne spots so I don’t really bother with it much. By the way, The Ordinary has relaunched their normal salicylic acid serum the one that doesn’t have oily feel in case you want to check it out.
Pamela says
This routine is awesome. I’m 60 yrs old and stiy suffer from oily congested skin with occasional pimple. It has helped so much. My question is for and anti-aging how can I incorporate TO Buffet or can you suggest something else. Thank you so much for your time and effort.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, you can use Buffet both in the morning and night routine before or after other serums (niacinamide/marine hyaluronics), depending on your preference and consistency of the serums for which the rule is to go from thinnest to thickest. Have a great day and feel free to ask more questions!
Madjeline says
Hi! I love your article. Thank you so much for detailing this routine.
If I were to follow your routine where would you fit the ordinary retinol in this routine? I’m tempted to add retinol because I have used it in the past with good results.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, I would then exfoliate 1-2x/week and 2-3 nights from rest of the week will be retinol day after the serum step. If you get irritation then maybe mix it with moisturizer and apply.
Hannah says
Hi, I didn’t quite understand on where I can use the retinol. Is this after every time Im done exfoliating? May I get a more clear details on this. Thanks so much! Love the article btw. ♥️
Giselle Buenviaje says
Hello goodevening!
Can you recommend me a product combination for my Acne Vulgaris, and also how to use it from morning to evening. I saw a lot of products from The ordinary but I dont know which one to use for my Acne Vulgaris. I used a lot and spent money for lots of products but it didnt work. Help me pls
P.S Can I use avene cleansing gel as my cleanser?
Thank you for your reply
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey yes you can use avene cleansing gel as your cleanser. I am not a professional so I am not sure I can suggest something to treat a skin issue. 🙂
ALICIA says
What you you suggest I use, salicylic acid, lactic acid or azelaic acid for my acne prone skin. Note: I do suffer from blackheads, whiteheads and cystic acne. I have combination skin as well.
Thank you!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, I would suggest to include salicylic (1-2x/week) and azelaic acid (2-3x/week) both, but not in the same routine for starters.
Lex says
Hello, I’m 15 years old and I do get acne, then it leave scars on my face. Should I follow the skincare routine you suggested? Thank you for your help.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi Lex, you can give this routine a try as it is fairly simple and straightforward. However, I’d suggest you to exfoliate only once or twice a week.
Daniela Rivera says
Hii! This page is awesome! Thank you so much for doing this. I am about to start with The Ordinary products and just wanted to check if the routine I’m planning to use is the best. I’m 20 years old and struggle with a bit of congestión and dullness.
AM
1. Cleanser
2. Micelar water
3. Niacinamide
4. Hydrating cream
PM
1. Cleanser
2. Micelar water
3. Glicolic Acid Toner
4. Niacinamide
5. Hydrating cream
Again thank you so much for doing this!! God bless you 🙂
Rifat Yaseen says
Hello Daniela, you don’t need to use micellar water in the morning. And at night, first micellar water then your cleanser. So it should look like this:
AM
1. Cleanser
2. Niacinamide
3. Hydrating cream
4. Sunscreen (very important since glycolic acid increases sun sensitivity)
PM
1. Micellar Water
2. Cleanser
3. Glycolic Acid Toner (2-3x/week)
4. Niacinamide
5. Hydrating cream
I hope this was of some help, apologies for the late response. I was not active with my blog 🙂
Toni says
Hi! Below is my current routine however, not sure where to add the Ordinary products I bought (Glycolic Acid 7%, Lactic Acid 5% and Vitamin C Suspension 23%). Can you please help me or if the below is correct? Not sure if I should use 1 product from the 3 every day.
AM:
Cetaphil Gentle Wash
AHA/BHA clarifying treatment toner
Alpha Arbutin
Niacinamide
Snail 96 Musin Power Essence
Vitamin C Suspension 23% (M/W/F)
PM:
Cetaphil Gentle Wash
Black Sugar Skin Food / Innisfree Volcanic Mask (2 or 3 times a week)
AHA/BHA clarifying treatment toner
Glycolic Acid 7% (Mon/Fri) / Lactic Acid (Weds)
Alpha Arbutin
Niacinamide
Innisfree Green tea serum / Laneige Water Sleeping Mask
Snail 96 Musin Power Essence
Cosrx Overnight Mask
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi you are already using the AHA BHA treatment so you dont need the glycolic acid toner and lactic acid since they’re both AHAs only. Pick one out of the three. The rest of your routine looks good, add sunscreen in the morning.
Harini Malshani says
I am going to use the ordinary products for the first time because I want to reduce my acne and blemish marks occurred from acne. I have a oily and prone skin. Is it ok if I first apply glycolic acid toner to my oily and prone face and then apply niacinamide after the toner dries, and then at last apply alpha arbutin after niacinamide dries up.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi Harini, yes you can layer all three but ensure that you don’t use the glycolic acid toner daily as that can lead to overefoliation.
Theresa says
Hi!
First of all, your articles are amazing and useful. Thank you for that and continue with your great work. ❤️
I’d like to ask you for your help.
I have oily acne prone skin. Currently I am struggling with some scarring and blackheads on my nose. I also have some clogged pores.
I would like to have a routine, but I am not sure how to mix products I want.
I’m using these deciem products at the moment: Niacinamide 10% + 1% Zinc, AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution.
My current PM routine:
-Cerave foaming cleanser for an oily skin (contains HA)
– garnier micellar water
– niacinamide
– moisturizer
(Once a week I use peeling solution)
I would really love to buy some of the those product:
Glycolic Toning Solution, Azelaic Acid Suspension 10%, Alpha Arbutin 2%+ HA, Lactic Acid 5%, or Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5.
I would like to know which ones are the best to make my routine great, if these products work well together and if I need all of them, or just some.
Thank you so much for your help!
Tereza
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, thank you so much, I’m glad you liked my content 🙂
Here are a few tips I’d suggest based on my experience:
1) In PM routine, first cleanse with micellar water and then facewash. You’re doing the opposite.
2) You already have the peeling solution so don’t get glycolic acid and lactic acid. Overexfoliation causes more harm to the skin.
3) Just get the alpha arbutin because it already has HA, no need to buy a separate HA serum too. You can use this serum in both AM & PM routine in the serum step. Before or after niacinamide…doesn’t matter much.
4) Azelaic acid I prefer to use before moisturizer only on the areas that need help (because its texture is very silicone-y) with congestion and whiteheads. Again, you can use it in the night routine, preferably not on the peeling days.
I hope this helps you in curating your routine 🙂
Rica says
Wow! After searching and searching about how to use the ordinary products i finally found one that helps with routine. Thank you so much. I have acne prone skin, been battling for so long and saw the ordinary products and i’m trying it now. Any suggestion how to use the following products? What can i combine?
1. Niacinamide 10% + zinc 1%
2. Granactive Retinoid 5% in Squaline
3. 100% organic cold pressed rose hip seed oil
4. Buffet
5. AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeing Solution
6. Lactic Acid 10% + HA
7. Mandelic Acid 10% + HA
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, I’m glad you found it helpful!
1. Too many exfoliants. Remove 5 and 6. Only keep 7 and use it once a week when starting since you’ll be using retinoid too.
2. Retinoid – use 2x/week after moisturizer. Don’t use it in the same routine as any exfoliator. You can use the rosehip oil over this to avoid dryness but it’s not a necessity. If the skin doesn’t feel dry, skip the oil.
3. Use Buffet on the nights you’re not using retinoid in the serum step. You can use it before Marine Hyaluronic serum or skip MH, if you don’t like layering too much.
4. Niacinamide can be used any time.
I hope this gives you some clarity! I am working on an article on how to curate and layer your skincare the right way, hope that will help you more.
izza aryssa says
hello!! i just purchased the ordinarys glycolic acid and the nmf+ HA.
my routine for AM is
– innisfree pore micellar cleansing foam
– the ordinary niacinamide
– rosken dry skin cream / moisturizer
– skin aqua water based sunblock
PM
– innisfree pore micellar cleansing foam
– the ordinary niacinamide
– rosken dry skin cream / moisturizer
should i change my normal moisturizer to nmf+HA at for my PM routine or both routine? and can niacinamide be used on the nights that i’m not wearing glycolic acid? and should i double cleanse since i use sunblock everyday and what product do you recommend?
my skin type is oily skin as well.
hihi thank you in advance!
Rifat Yaseen says
1. Yes you can use the nmf for both am and pm, it depends on what you prefer.
2. Yes 100%.
3. I prefer double cleansing always. You can use their squalane cleansing balm or Bioderma’s micellar water.
Hope this helps. Sorry for the late response 🙂
Lia says
Hi, I just stumbled on your article… really useful… Thank you.
Which of the retinols / Granactive retinoid would you recommend with the routine advised?
Rifat Yaseen says
Start with the lowest concentration of either. Granactive retinoids are gentler so if you’re a beginner and want to play safely, it’ll be great. If you use retinol/retinoid, apply it 2x a week after moisturizer (on dry skin, not moist) and keep exfoliation to once a week only.
Mikaela says
Hi there! Thank you so much for the really informative skincare routine. Adopting most of your recommendations with some tweaks and just wondering if my alternatives are okay, especially the Alpha Arbutin 2%? Might not go well with the Lactic Acid, so your insights would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
AM:
1. Gel cleanser
2. Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%
3. Moisturizer with sunscreen
PM:
1. Gel cleanser
2. Second cleanse – micellar water
3. Lactic Acid (3x a week) / Alpha Arbutin 2% + HA (when not using LA)
4. Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG (for eye bags)
5. Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, it’s fine to use lactic acid and alpha arbutin in one routine because the former is an exfoliator and the latter is an antioxidant that inhibits melanin production.
Also, in your pm routine, cleanse with micellar water first and then facewash… That’s the right sequence.
Mikaela says
Great! Thanks a bunch for the helpful advice! One last thing, would you have any recommendation for an alternative to the Salicylic Acid 2% Solution? I believe it would help my skin a lot, but seems to be out of stock for quite a while already. Thank you again!
Rifat Yaseen says
Yes, it’s been out of stock for a while now. Look into Paula’s Choice BHA if your budget allows or Inkey List BHA. 🙂
Allyesha says
Thanks so much for going through the order of application!! I love The Ordinary Products, but have found the instructions in application to be vague. This post really helped me understand what products to use for my oily skin.
Faiza hashmi says
Hi dear
I m38, having oily acne prone and sensitive skin. Facing acne on jawline and around chin. Currently using cerave foaming cleanser
Hyaluronic
Niacinmide
Face theory M3 Moisturizer
And i Am, PM routine
Let me guide if need any change
Can I add azealic acid suspension and alphaAbrutin somewhere in my routine?
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey your routine looks good to me. You can try azelaic acid as it’s very good for acne and acne spots 🙂
Analyn C Nagal says
Hi i started using ordinary product just a month ago and i am struggling with the routine i can use so far what i have been doing , i have acne prone oily skin and have breakouts usually at my chin area, please help if this routine needs changing
AM
Cerave hydrating gel
Niacinamide 10%
Hyaluronic
Azelaic
NMF
Biore spf 50
PM
Glycolic acid toner
Niacinamide 10%
Hyaluronic
Azelaic
NMF
Cold pressed rose hip seed oil
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi,
1) Use azelaic acid only once a day in your PM routine. Remove it from AM.
2) Double cleanse in the PM (as I’ve mentioned in the post above).
3) Use glycolic acid only 2x per week. Anything more and might cause more harm than good.
The rest looks good to me. I’d suggest you stick to a routine for 2 months at least to notice a change. Since you have oily skin you can use their salicylic acid facemask once a week too. It’s great for congestion and reducing oil. Hope this helps 🙂
Marsh says
Hi, Please help. I’ve been using the toner for a month and the Niacinamide for 3 weeks now and my face is clogging pores specially in my forehead and nose. whiteheads also appeared in my cheeks. Should I stop using it? or is it normal? I have oily sensitive acne prone skin
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, it depends. You might be purging but I can’t tell as I haven’t seen you. You can google purging, there are multiple guides that will help you decide the same. Apologies for the very late response. Is the situation better now?
Gurleen says
Hi
This could be a little wierd but how do I apply the lactic acid.Like it says it is an exfoliant right , so do I need to wash it, remove it or what? Please suggest me .
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, just spread and pat 2-3 drops on your face and follow up with any hydrating serum or moisturizer. No need to wash off.
Vicci says
Thank you so much for sharing this routine! I have been looki g for an effective routine for years and for a few years I used The Body Shop face products, Cetaphil and even Kiehls, but none seemed to work well for my acne prone and olit skin. I live in a dry climate as well and some of these products only work well in moist climates. I’m planning to buy everything you’ve listed in the routine but still need some guidance on the cleanser and moisturizer (AM) to use. Any ideas?
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi, for cleanser try Heimish green foam cleanser, it’s nice for dry skin too. or the Cerave hydrating cleanser. Moisturizer you can use the same one you used in the PM routine – TO natural moisturizing factors.
Ice says
Thank you so much for this post! It’s very helpful and so easy to follow. I listed down the skincare routine I’m starting based on yours and tweaked the products a bit. Do you think this will work?
AM
– Cerave Foaming Cleanser
– Naicinamide 10% + Zin 1%
– Purito Centella Sunscreen
PM
– Cerave Foaming Cleanser
– Paula’s Choice 2% BHA Liquid
– Marine Hyaluronics
– Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
Rifat Yaseen says
Looks perfect to me! Just a tiny heads up, a recent independent report has said that Purito doesn’t actually have spf 50, they have about 19 and Purito said they’re retesting so things are a lil sketchy with it. Since it’s winters, I am continuing to use it as ~20 spf is okay but if you haven’t bought it I’d suggest to look for other brands like CeraVe and La Roche Posay.
Nishtha Maheshwari says
Hi!
I live in India and have a combination and acne-prone skin. I have very sensitive skin and I’m looking for a skincare routine. I heard a lot about the brand The Ordinary and especially about the Peeling solution but since the brand is not easily accessible in India. Can you recommend a few products to include in my routine which can make a big difference especially for acne scars and dullness? Especially the peeling solution which is so famous of the brand.
Rifat Yaseen says
I would advice against using the peeling solution unless you’re an experienced acid user. There are plenty of brands available in India that you can explore from K-beauty to Dr sheth’s.
Mia says
I have a combination of oily and normal skin, what do you recommend using for a serum. I want a simple routine with one serum for both morning and night.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi, if you need hydration just use marine hyaluronics serum both morning and night but if you’re looking for some brightening then the niacinamide serum.
Caitlin says
I have not had a skincare routine before, but have been really interested in the ordinary product range. I do not have acne prone skin, would this still be a good routine for me?
Rifat Yaseen says
Yes, this routine focuses more on maintaining the health of your skin instead of aggressively targeting acne so it should be fine. You can tone down the exfoliation part to 2x/week max with 10% lactic acid. Let me know if you have more questions.
Danielle says
Thanks so much for sharing your skincare routine! I have purchased everything you recommended, and I also purchased the retinol 0.2% in squalane. wherein my nighttime routine would I incorporate that? Also, The Ordinary did not have SA when I purchased so I just got LA. would I use this every other day or use it daily during my nighttime routine? Thanks!
Rifat Yaseen says
Apologies for the late response! I’d suggest starting with retinol 2x/week and you can apply it right before the moisturizer. You can increase this to 3x/week if you’re not facing much dryness. Test it for 2-3 weeks and then use LA on the remaining nights (2x or 3x/week) as the exfoliation step. Just don’t use both in the same routine. Let me know if you have more questions.
Nijha says
Hi Which Ordinary Products Will Give Me A Glow, Get Rid Of My Breakouts, And Help With My Dark Spots? My Skin Type Is Sensitive And Oily.
Rifat Yaseen says
I have mentioned a routine for the same. Now the extent to which it’ll help you will depend on the severity of your skin conditions so you’ll have to try to know that.
Nijha says
Hi I Suffer From Sensitive And Oily Skin, What Products Are Right For Me?
Rifat Yaseen says
I’ve mentioned that in the routine post above, you can check out the full reviews of these products (have linked in the post) to know more about them and understand the compatibility.
Sharan Riyat says
Hi! I have read this article and from what I have read in the comments, it seems amazing! I’m so excited to try this pout, but I have one query; I have blackheads and whiteheads under the skin, so would this routine work for those kind of spots?? I’d appreciate it if you could reply back!! Thankyou! Xx
Rifat Yaseen says
Thank you! The salicylic acid will help me decongesting your skin so yes it’ll still be helpful xx
Jean Katherine says
Hello!
I just purchased The Ordinary Niacinamide and Glycolic Acid and on my way of trying them.
Is it ok to use them along with Garnier Products (Brightening Foam and Serum cream with SPF as sunscreen) for my oily and Acne-prone skin?
If not, what do you recommend?
Thanks.
Rifat Yaseen says
Yes, it’s perfectly fine!
Alina says
Hi Rifat! I wish I would have found this article before putting in my order. I have oily acne prone skin with blemishes and I’m about to turn 32 (I don’t look it yet but I want to beat the wrinkles lol). Figured I’d ask if you think this routine makes sense or if I should watch out for anything.
AM
1. CeraVe hydrating cleanser
2. Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%
3. The Buffet
4. Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
5. Sunscreen
PM
1. CeraVe hydrating cleanser
2. Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution
3. Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
4. Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA
I also got the AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution to use only once a week. I would substitute for the Toning Solution at night. Does this make sense?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi, the routine looks good to me but please use the toning solution 2-3x/week max. And when you’re starting out, use the peel on Sunday followed by glycolic acid only once in that week. All this is kind of needed to avoid overexfoliation.
sathna says
Hi, I am 22-year and my interaction with any product is zero. I have acne-prone skin with dark spots and also dull skin so I want to start a daily skin routine that solves these problems.
I really loved this website it’s very clear, can you please suggest to me a routine.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hi the routine is mentioned in the post above! Please take some time to read it 🙂
Mohona Ghosh says
Hey, I’m new to Ordinary products but I bought almost everything you said, but I was wondering on nights that I don’t exfoliate with the Lactic acid solution, could I use the niacinamide solution? (if I made that substitution I would be using it in the morning and evening on those days) And can I use hyaluronic acid after lactic acid? I also had a question if I was moisturizing too much in my routine because I do have combination skin but it’s more on the dry side other than my nose. I would really appreciate it if you could help! Thank you 🙂
My routine looks like this
Morning Routine:
1. Cleanse with CeraVe…
2. Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%…
3. Hyaluronic acid…
4. Moisturizer…
5. Sunscreen
Nighttime Routine:
1. Squalene Cleanser (if makeup)
2. Second Cleanse
3a. Lactic Acid (M/W/F)
3b. Niacinamide (T/Th/Sa/Su) ??
4. HA ??
5. Moisturizer
6. Squalene Oil
Rifat Yaseen says
Your routine looks perfect to me. The best tip for HA would be to apply it on really damp skin so on days you’re on using lactic acid you can apply HA right after cleansing then go with niacinamide for better hydration. Add more moisturizer on areas that feel dry.
Chloe says
Would you say it’s fine to skip the last 2 steps for the evening and just use Neutrogena Hydoboost water gel? Its the only moisturiser I’ve used that doesn’t break me out!
Rifat Yaseen says
Yes absolutely!!
shruti says
HEY…. I am 18.I have a combination skin type. I have problems like acne and acne marks. I did not try many products because of the thought that it may worsen my skin condition. I want to try the ordinary. Can u plss let me know if I could use this skin care routine??… thank you!
Rifat Yaseen says
You can follow the cleanser, moisturizer and sunscreen step. That should be enough for you at this age!
Sakshi says
Hey rifat ,i am 24 and have a combination type of skin.i have been struggling with a bad skin typ and acne ,acne marks since puberty and also wasted a lot money on products which were not much useful. I want to follow a skin care routine for a heathly ,glowing skin and found your page very helpful. Can you please help me out in getting a skin care routine to begin with mimimun side effects.
Rifat Yaseen says
The post above has laid out a skincare routine that you can follow! I’d recommend 2x a week exfoliation with 5% lactic acid in the exfoliation step and the rest should be fine I believe.
RACHEL says
Hi, I really like your review about the ordinary products and its helps me a lot. I have one question! can i use micellar water by garnier for my double cleanser ? i have an oily skin and acne scar. and this is my skincare routine for morning, i use 1.Foam cleanser 2.Niacinamide 10 + zinc 1 3.Moisturizer Rose Petal Aloe Vera Gel – Fruit of the Earth. 4.Biore UV Perfect Protect Milk SPF50+. and for my night routine i use 1. micellar water garnier 2.foam cleanser 3. glycolic acid toning (3x a week) 4. Hyaluronic acid 2 + b5 5. Moisturizer Rose Petal. I really hope you can help me with this Thank you!.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! Yes, using micellar water as a first cleanse is completely okay. Your skincare routine looks great to me 🙂
GINA ANNE PETRELLO-ROSEN says
Hi
My tween 12 1/2 year old has oily and acne with blackheads in the t-zone. She has been reading a lot about your products and would like to try them. Can you tell me might you would suggest I start with for a skin regimen. She is becoming self conscious. Thank you so much.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! Since she’s quite young I’d recommend a very basic routine of AM: Cleanse — sunscreen & PM: Double cleanse — Moisturizer. You can pick the ordinary squalane cleanser as the first cleanse & their NMF moisturizer. For second cleanse, Krave Beauty, CeraVe have gentle cleansers & Purito unscented spf 50 sunscreen is amazing. I don’t think she needs to use any other serums or actives at this age.
Lalnunziri says
Hey! Struggle with acne papules and sometimes pustules for a about 3 years, i have seen a doctor but after about 6 months of medication it has started again, can u please build a skin routine for me, im having dry combination skin
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! It’s very common to relapse because acne can’t be fully treated. This routine can be used by dry-combination skin types and if you feel a little dryness at the end of the routine maybe add an oil. But I’d also recommend you to talk to your doctor about the acne coming back, he or she will be able to help you the best with treatment.
Khalie says
Where would you recommend incorporating the rose hip seed oil? I read to use it after water-based hydration, so would that be best after steps 3, 4, or 5 of the PM ritual? Thank you!!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! You can use it as the last step after moisturizer in the PM routine.
Iman says
Hey, this was soo helpful, thank you so much! I have just started focusing on skincare, and heard great things about The Ordinary.
Just 2 questions, I heard really good things about the Vitamin C serum (Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution 12%) from The Ordinary, do you recommend incorporating this into the routine? If so, in the am or pm?
Also, with the facial oil at night, do you recommend the 100% Plant-Derived Squalane or the 100% Organic Cold-Pressed Rose Hip Seed Oil for dry-combination acne prone skin? I also have a few acne scars. xx
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! You can use that in the morning. I’m really oily so I don’t use too many facial oils but if brightening and acne spots are your concerns then maybe rosehip oil might work xx
Estelle says
Hi! I’ve had acne since puberty and I’m 27 now but I still have large pimples, whiteheads and blackheads ugh! I am also a (proper) skincare newbie and have very little knowledge about serums, creams and whatnot. I’ve been curious about The Ordinary and most of the products you mentioned and I want to say your post is so helpful! I also want to ask if I can incorporate Benzoyl Peroxide and Salicylic peels in this routine. Thank you!!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, thank you so much. If you’re getting peels, I’d suggest you ask your esthetician or doctor, whoever is performing those peels on you, to help you out with the routine. But from what I think, you could use a milder exfoliant like their mandelic acid 2x a week if you’re getting the peels monthly. Rest of the routine should work just fine.
Aakriti Vadehra says
Thank you so much for this post. This is truly a blessing for someone like me who’s dealing with pretty much all the concerns covered in this post.
I had two questions… I am using OTC prescription tropical meds for my active acne. Namely, dapsone gel in the morning and adapalene+benzoyl peroxide in the night. Can I incorporate these into your routine?
Also, does this routine work well for active acne? I mean will it be able to treat my acne? If not treat, then at least not worsen it…?
Rifat Yaseen says
I was on prescription retinoid for some time and I’d suggest you remove the exfoliation step completely. The rest of it works fine. Unless your skin is reactive to a particular ingredient, this routine is safe for acne-prone skin and will help in preventing milder acne issues.
Jessica says
Hi! I just purchased 90% of what you suggested and will follow your recommendation but wanted to know when should I incorporate a Vitamin C serum?
Thank you!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey if you want to include Vitamin C, I’d say mornings would be the best time.
Theresa says
My understanding is that the Niacinamide + Zince should NOT be used at the same time as Vitamin C, so if you’re using N + Z in the AM, use the Vit C in the PM.
Rifat Yaseen says
As a precaution you can avoid using them both in same routine but it’s generally safe to use as long as your skin isn’t reacting badly to it.
Samantha says
What do I do for oily skin,acne,pimple,sensitive skin?
Rifat Yaseen says
The same routine but make sure you include one product at a time to ensure your skin is not reactive to anything.xx
Lena says
I just have to say – thank you. I’ve struggled with bad skin since puberty (I’m 28 now). Over the years I’ve spent so much money on products that doesn’t work, and I honestly have to say I had given up. I just covered up the problem with make up, but of course it made me feel very self conscious. I have now followed this guide for only four days, and the difference is remarkable! I’m seriously so surprised and so very happy. Again, thank you so much 😊
Rifat Yaseen says
This makes me so happy Lena!! I am really happy that this routine is working out for you. My goal behind writing is post is achieved! Keep enjoying skincare, do remember there will be a few minor flaws here and there but don’t pay too much attention to them. Just keep your skin healthy and protected, it’ll take some time but the results would be worth it. Thank you so much for updating me with the results!
Sanjitha Sekar says
What do I do for dry,acne,pimple,sensitive skin….??
Rifat Yaseen says
I’d say you follow the same routine but change a few things – Use hyaluronic acid serum in the AM after niacinamide. At night, Replace marine hyaluronics with their hyaluronic acid serum. And after the moisturizer, a drop or two of their squalane facial oil.
Hasam says
omg nevermind i just saw that i can haha sorry. this was very helpful though!!
Rifat Yaseen says
Haha no problem! Happy it helped 🙂
maryam says
Hi, i have been struggling with acne for the last 7-8 months. Acne vulgaris.
Its better but still there, i am using Skin-A Creme (tretinoin USP 0.05%), and Duac (clindamycin and benzoyl peroxide)
Apart from that i just use Physiogel moisturising lotion. Nutrogena Grapefruit face wash. And thats it.
Could you please suggest me a routine, or should i follow thebone you havebststed above with Skin-A and Duac added to it?
XX
Rifat Yaseen says
You can follow this routine but remove the exfoliation step completely. You can also skip niacinamide if you want to reduce multiple steps. Focus on hydrating your skin and protecting it from the sun.
Hasam says
Any way to incorporate the Glycolic Acid Toning Solution into the routine?
Shelby says
When can I coordinate the aha+bha into this routine?
Rifat Yaseen says
At the exfoliation step but then don’t use any other exfoliating acid or toner. Just the peeling solution once a week… or twice if your skin is able to tolerate it well.
S.ham says
Hi this is so helpful thank you. How can I incorporate a vitamin c serum into this regimen?
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! You can skip niacinamide in the morning and replace it with Vitamin C serum.
Nidhi says
Hi, I just bought the glycolic toner, hyaluronic serum and the niacinamide serum. Can you tell me the correct order of using these three in the am and pm? I have been looking but it is a bit confusing.
Thanks!
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, I have mentioned when and how to use the niacinamide and glycolic acid toner in the article itself. For hyaluronic acid serum, use it in the place of marine hyaluronics step and you’ll do fine.
umi says
Can I apply make up after using all the product for the morning routine?
If can, how long I have to wait to make sure all the product absorb into my skin?
Rifat Yaseen says
Start with makeup after 15-ish minutes of applying sunscreen and you’ll do just fine.
Josh says
Hi what about AHA BHA??
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, that’s a little too harsh for most people that’s why I didn’t include in the routine considering many beginners might be referring to it. But if your skin can tolerate it, you can use it in the exfoliation step but then avoid any other exfoliating acids.
Layla says
Hi , i little bit confused.. why you’re not using any moisturiser in your morning routine?
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! I have oily skin and I live in a tropical country so I generally avoid the moisturizer step and try to use moisturizing sunscreens so I can get the benefits of two things in just one step. Hope this answers your question!
LJ says
Hi Rifat!
I have recently purchased the ascorbic acid + alpha arbutin, alongside the products above. Do you know when I could incorporate this into my routine?
Many Thanks.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey! You can use that in the morning right after cleansing. Hope this helps xx
Hardika Ashok Kotecha says
Do i need to double cleanse in the night? Even if i dont use makeup?? I have acne, acne marks and oily skin.
Also is oil cleansing good for oily skin? And if yes which oil cleanser would you suggest?
Am new to skin routine and found your page really helpful.
Thank you.
Rifat Yaseen says
Yes, oil/balm cleansing is good for oily skin, you can try Klairs Cleansing oil or inkey list oat cleansing balm. Even the squalane cleanser mentioned in this post can be used as a first cleanse. Double cleansing at night has really helped my congested skin, I do it if I wear makeup and/ or sunscreen. Thank you, I am you find it helpful! You can subscribe to my newsletter, I send weekly skincare tips there. You might find it helpful too 🙂
Emma says
Ok I’m 35 and have just discovered The Ordinary, before it was cleanse/tone/moisturise. Now, it’s a whole chemistry lesson 😂.
Thankyou for simplifying the routine, I have oily skin too so it’s perfect and easy to follow.
Rifat Yaseen says
Haha, I completely understand what you mean by the chemistry lesson. I felt the same way when I discovered it. I’m happy you found it helpful. Take care! 🙂
Jojo says
You’ve really helped me I was wondering how I’m gonna manage my acne sports and breakouts plus old scars , I was really puzzled thanx so much dear God bless you
Rifat Yaseen says
Hello! Thank you so much for all the kind words, I’m really glad it could be of some help to you. xx
supriya tarayawale says
omg you are like a fairy godmother i just found *happy crying*
Rifat Yaseen says
Haha!! Thank you so much :))
Manisa says
Thank you so much 🙏i found good routine information i really needed this I’m so happy now.
Rifat Yaseen says
I’m glad I could be of some help! Hope this routine works out well for you 🙂
Chels says
Wow, this is super helpful and informative! Thank you for your breakdown and easy-to-follow guide. Seriously, this is such an overwhelming topic, and this info is so helpful! I’m newer to this more advanced skincare game, so I’m still learning a lot.
If I use a topical retinoid at night for acne, would you suggest altering anything in this plan? Thank you!
Rifat Yaseen says
Thank you so much!! I am glad you found it helpful 🙂 I started using prescription retinoid a few months ago too and I have eliminated the exfoliation step from my routine because it can get a bit too harsh for the skin. I’d suggest you do the same.
Tosyne says
Hello. Thanks for the tips.
I have oily, dehydrated, sun sensitive skin. I’m African,though fair skinned.
AM Routine
-I use soap and glory vitamin C face wash(double Cleansing)
-Niacinamide10%+ zinc( definitely use more than 5drops)
-Cerave moisturizer
– Suncut by Cosmeport Sunscreen( wasn’t used to sunscreens until a month ago)
-Then apply my Make up
PM
-Soap and glory face wash
-7%glycolic acid (it took some getting used to)
– 0.5%retinol in squalane
– Cerave ceramide, niacinamide, hyaluronic moisturizer.
Been a month and some days of consistent use.
I’m not seeing results so far in anti-aging, blemish/hyperpigmentation-free, firm and plump looking skin I was hoping for. Only result so far is in the dullness. PM routine usually leaves my face Looking like a grease factory.
Kindly advice if I’m doing something wrong.
Rifat Yaseen says
Hey, here’s a few things I can think of:
1. You shouldn’t double cleanse in the morning
2. glycolic acid I hope you’re not using daily because that’s going to over-exfoliate your skin and make it dull
3. retinol again I hope it’s not daily since you’re a beginner and 2-3 times a week is a good frequency
4. glycolic and retinol not in same routine
If you look greasy in PM after your routine then use less quantity of products and/or lighter moisturizer
With skincare, give your routine at least 3 months and reduce the frequency of actives as I mentioned in my points